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Comment by Virginia (Ginger) Paque on November 17, 2009 at 7:15pm

Disorganized notes--you will clearly see that I was tweeting--on Cloud Computing and Privacy Workshop, an excellent panel organized by Katitza:

Cristos Velasco, moderating said Civil Society is advocating strong data protection.

Cloud computing "What's new is old is new again" new tech or old services re-packaged or new models, ease of use: the concepts are not all new, but are being used in new ways, both Cloud computing, and the privacy issues/protection/security issues.

Bruce Schneier call Cloud computing: "your data on someone else's hard drive"
It’s all about trust: trust is necessary; you no longer have control of security: this brings new risks: Where is your data? This will bring the emergence of a reputation-based market. Seger from CoE said providers that can guarantee privacy will have a competitive advantage.

Michael Thatcher from Microsoft compared your data to luggage: it can get lost; you do not know who has it, where they have it, or how they are going to treat it.

Seger, CoE: Security must investigate breeches. Existing instruments such as the Convention on Cybercrime make a good foundation. Examples he gave of problems for law enforcement: A needs data stored in Country B--what will happen? Discusses whether the law enforcement of Country B must be involved.
Or: If country A wants data for a law enforcement investigation: data originating in country B, but stored in country C?

US Federal Trade Commissioner Pamela Jones Harbour pointed out the need for awareness raising in consumers who often do not even keep their own computers secure. She mentioned the Behavioral Advertising Principles (www.ftc.gov/os/2009/02/P085400behavadreport.pdf) Feb 2009 as first step to apply to Cloud computing, and wonder who will be liable for security breeches?

Laurent Bernat, Principal Assistant within the Science, Technology and Industry Branch of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) said that CC is all about outsourcing, it is cheaper, it is an important trend. The Cloud is more efficient, can be accessed from anywhere. The challenge: Complexity of user risk-driven decisions, issues that are not new, but on a scale that is a new challenge.

A speaker from viewpoint of developing countries, especially China pointed out that your data may be stored in China, and the privacy protection you are used to may not be extended to that data, as China has different laws.

Simon Davies: the further you get from the source, the more the accountability drops.

Jean Marc Dinant, Council of Europe there is a dark cloud above the internet: 88% of websites are using same tech and the same provider: Google and Google analytics. Your data is in the dark cloud. He asked: how can users ensure that removal of data actually takes place in the (dark) cloud?

Question: as consumers, should we accept the cross-border terms of use? Service providers accept no responsibility--how to address consumer protection? Simon Davies called for international guidelines.

When we make a choice, can we change services easily? If it is a hassle to change, do we really have a choice? How to follow your data if countries move, change, get sold?

Users do not realize how much behavioral targeting affects their privacy: in the cloud this will be exponentially multiplied.

"Google is a big dark cloud over the Internet and users do not see it" (lack of privacy)

Pamela Jones Harbour of the US FTC noted 3 storm clouds: 1. negative privacy implications, and use of this information; 2. data security concerns, data stored in the clouds might not be safe, might not be encrypted as securely as needed; 3. tech-lock in: non-transferable (mutually incompatible) technologies, making it difficult to change services.

Trust is the ultimate hurdle for the cloud… we trust many things... that our lunch will not be poisoned for example, but we must be smart with our data.

Comment by Magaly on November 17, 2009 at 4:16pm

Anyone here has attended the Medicines on the net – risks and benefits workshop yesterday? I couldn't follow it by RP, the sound was too low. I would appreciate any feedback :-) Better if someone here knows the workshop contact person email.

Comment by Emmanuel Edet on November 16, 2009 at 4:57pm

We are just rounding up the Main Session on Security, Oppeness and Privacy. The spekers delt with the balancing of interest in the three broad areas.The production of data has become a part of the digital environment and most of the data are not under the control of the owner. Thus we all have data shadows.

Issues regarding privacy of religion and sexual orientation were also discussed. All speakers agreed that there was no need to sacrifice privacy for security or openness, rather the subjects should be viewed from the perspective of human right rules and policies. Privacy is a right and not a comodity that can be sold so it should be protected vigorously. The focus should be on liberty and control and not privacy and security.

It was a good session with balanced views.

Comment by Hanane Boujemi on November 16, 2009 at 3:00pm

The workshop on Internet use in the Arab region was a true success! Congrats to the great panel,most of which are Diplo fellows and friends. We had on board Adel Elzaim from IDRC, Ed Bice CEO or Meedan and Anas Taweileh, Dr Mohammed Al kanhal from KACST, Jawad Abbassi CEO of Arab Advisors Group, George Victor from NTRA, Rafik Dammak and Rafid Fattani.The discussion was even more interesting since the audience included prominent experts from UNESCWA, ICANN and MCIT- Egypt. We had the the workshop covered live by a Meedan Blogger including the translation of the interventions into Arabic. More info on this link:http://beta.meedan.net/index.php?page=events&post_id=286488, enjoy and well done everyone!

Comment by Priyanthi Daluwatte on November 16, 2009 at 2:55pm

Highlights of the workshop 277 Internet Governance – Activating and Listening to the Voice of Tweens

A workshop atended by over 25 youth participants, raising issues on social networking and rights on the internet.

Highlights -
Right to for information and right to be safe for children/youth, access for disabled, need for a role in ICANN for youth, more involvment of youth at IGF, create a dynamic coalition for youth, application of same laws of the real world to virtual world, privacy issues in social networks,

Comment by Robert Guerra on November 16, 2009 at 2:28pm

Here's a copy of my remarks at the UNESCO workshop on censorship and filtering http://bit.ly/uZZ67

Comment by Virginia (Ginger) Paque on November 16, 2009 at 2:26pm

#igf09 Questions for main session: igfsharm2009@intgovforum.org WebEx: igf2009.webex.com webcast at www.un.org/webcast/igf/

Comment by Emmanuel Edet on November 16, 2009 at 2:21pm

Live webcast http://www.un.org/webcast/igf/

Comment by Virginia (Ginger) Paque on November 16, 2009 at 10:12am

Excellent panels today: the Remote Participation panel was outstanding. Jovan, Markus and Nermine gave excellent presentations on the IGF and remote. A persons with disabilities rep gave a great perspective. Marilia gave a more practical tech perspective... and of course the remote presenter could not be missing. Great job everyone! Both in theory and in practice.

Can someone tell us about the Arab region panel and privacy?

Comment by Priyanthi Daluwatte on November 16, 2009 at 10:06am

The Open Forum on Commonwealth IGF forum - higlights

The Open Forum on Commonwealth IGF forum, on the second day of IGF, had the following speakers.

Jospeph V Tabone, Chairman of Commonwealth IGF (Introduction), Anthony Ming, Commonwealth Secretariat (Commonwealth Connects initiatives), Alice Munuya,

KICTANet (East African IGF experience), Freda Ruth (South Asian experience).

Highlights -
The cultural diversity of Commonwealth countries, English as a common language, shared legal frame works, promotion of multistakeholderism, the importance of content along with providing access, the availability of content for education, health information, agriculture, access as a human right, Sharing of best practices of different Commonwealth countries, hoslistic multi stakeholder view. - Internet opens the door to a to a world not yet conceived -

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